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Grow Light and Temperature Experiment - Basement vs. Room Temperature

Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:23 pm

I have finally decided to do an experiment that I've been thinking about for a long time. I got hold of a fixture/flourescent light a few months ago, and formed a plan to rig it in my basement to test if it would give better plants.  The purpose of my experiment is to se if my vegetable plants will grow stronger in the basement with lower temperature and artificial light, than they do in room temperature with a mix of natural light and extra LED-lights.

This is the test station in the basement:

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I started Chilli Plants, Pepper Plants and Tomato Plants today (in room temperature) and I plan to move 50% of them to the Basement Station after first transplant, and leave the rest of them upstairs in room temperature.

The two stations:
  • Basement Station = NO natural daylight at all, a 58W fluorescent light, about 15-18 degrees Celsius.¬†
  • Upstairs Station = Natural daylight, some extra LED-grow lights (not that many..), about 20-23 degrees Celsius.
 
What's your experience and which one do you think will give better plants?


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Re: Grow Light and Temperature Experiment - Basement vs. Room Temperature

Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:35 pm

Following! I try to add as much extra light as I possibly can to my plants using both daylight and extra grow lights. Always battling the indoor temperature here with lights since it's a bit to warm to get GREAT plants in my home. Very nice to read that you have chilli plants in the experiment. I appreciate that. Thank you!
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Re: Grow Light and Temperature Experiment - Basement vs. Room Temperature

Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:51 pm

I've started to move a few Plants to the Basement today. I transplanted the first sprouting Cucumber Plants and Tomato Plants.

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One of the Tomato Plants will move to the basement, and one will stay on the Window Sill. Same with the Cucumber Plants. The Plants look quite similar in size today, so it seems like a good starting point for this experiment.

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I have more Tomato Plants, Pepper Plants and Chilli Plants coming for this experiment, but I have not transplanted them yet.
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Re: Grow Light and Temperature Experiment - Basement vs. Room Temperature

Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:08 am

Sounds like a fun experment! Love to see the results!!

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Re: Grow Light and Temperature Experiment - Basement vs. Room Temperature

Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:25 pm

mearhart1973 wrote:Sounds like a fun experment! Love to see the results!!

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Thank you! I will keep you posted. I'm too excited to see the results, checking every day even though it's to early to tell yet. ;-)
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Re: Grow Light and Temperature Experiment - Basement vs. Room Temperature

Sat Feb 25, 2017 11:07 am

I believe that I have some interesting findings to share.. There is already quite a big difference between the Basement Plants compared to the Window Sill Plants. Surprising to me!

This is is the Basement Plants:
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This is the Window Sill Plants:
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Basement Plants are developing a lot better so far, especially the Artichoke and the Cucumber. The Basement Plants are steadier and have deeper colours in general. Here are some side by side comparison pictures.

Cucumbers 
(Window Sill Plant to the left, Basement Plant to the right)

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Artichokes:
(Window Sill Plant to the left, Basement Plant to the right)
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Tomatoes
(Window Sill Plant to the left, Basement Plant to the right)

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Basil

This first picture is the Basement Basil.
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This is the Window Sill Basil:
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I almost want to abort the experiment and move all my Plants to the Basement already, but I will try not to do that. I did however move most of the Basil to the Basement, and just kept one upstairs for comparison. Sharing some general pictures from the Basement now (some stuff just moved in there today):

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I have also added a fan to circulate the air in the Basement and give the Plants some extra strength from the "wind".
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Re: Grow Light and Temperature Experiment - Basement vs. Room Temperature

Tue Feb 28, 2017 6:31 am

Interesting! How is the Chilli and Peppers coming along?
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Re: RE: Grow Light and Temperature Experiment - Basement vs. Room Temperature

Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:47 pm

Sanna wrote:I have finally decided to do an experiment that I've been thinking about for a long time. I got hold of a fixture/flourescent light a few months ago, and formed a plan to rig it in my basement to test if it would give better plants.  The purpose of my experiment is to se if my vegetable plants will grow stronger in the basement with lower temperature and artificial light, than they do in room temperature with a mix of natural light and extra LED-lights.

This is the test station in the basement:

Image

I started Chilli Plants, Pepper Plants and Tomato Plants today (in room temperature) and I plan to move 50% of them to the Basement Station after first transplant, and leave the rest of them upstairs in room temperature.

The two stations:
  • Basement Station = NO natural daylight at all, a 58W fluorescent light, about 15-18 degrees Celsius.¬†
  • Upstairs Station = Natural daylight, some extra LED-grow lights (not that many..), about 20-23 degrees Celsius.
 
What's your experience and which one do you think will give better plants?
I've been growing cucumbers under a 35w florescent on a shelf for 3 months at room temperature. They flower, grow faster and sweeter in the heat. Even my seedling apple tree is flowering! ImageImage

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Re: RE: Grow Light and Temperature Experiment - Basement vs. Room Temperature

Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:41 am

Douglas Faulds wrote:I've been growing cucumbers under a 35w florescent on a shelf for 3 months at room temperature. They flower, grow faster and sweeter in the heat. Even my seedling apple tree is flowering! ImageImage

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Oh wow! That is amazing! I had an indoor Cucumber last year, but struggled with getting it to thrive. Look like the 35W will do the trick! Maybe I should set up a third station for comparison.. 35W fluorescent in Room Temperature. 
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Re: Grow Light and Temperature Experiment - Basement vs. Room Temperature

Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:42 am

LittleChili wrote:Interesting! How is the Chilli and Peppers coming along?
I have not transplanted them and moved them to the basement yet. Hold on for a few more days. ;-)
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Re: Grow Light and Temperature Experiment - Basement vs. Room Temperature

Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:23 pm

I'm really fascinated by all this. Here's the view of the corner of my living room Image (well.....? that's meant to be a photo of hydroponic salad growing in artificial light, but I think I've just uploaded loads of code!)
Anyway....I've only just signed up to Growerflow, so presumably I'll get the knack of photo uploads to this site eventually!
Basement/windowsill experiment is just what I've started trialing here in London, UK.
My main difficulty is keeping anything much above 18C even inside. Looking forward to Spring!

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Re: Grow Light and Temperature Experiment - Basement vs. Room Temperature

Sat Mar 04, 2017 2:30 pm

John Wood wrote:I'm really fascinated by all this. Here's the view of the corner of my living room...
Wow! That's a beautiful chaos!
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Re: Grow Light and Temperature Experiment - Basement vs. Room Temperature

Sat Mar 04, 2017 2:42 pm

The difference between the Basement Plants and the Window Sill Plants are getting bigger and bigger each day. I'm now at the point that I'm starting to wonder how I ever got good plants on my Window Sills before (and I've always been happy with the quality of most of my plants..)

Some of the Basement Plants:

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Comparable Window Sill Plants. Started at the same dates but clearly smaller, leggier and with a brighter more yellow color tone:
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Side by side comparison Artichokes
Window Sill Plant to the left, Basement Plant to the right:

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Side by side comparison Cucumber
Window Sill Plant to the left, Basement Plant to the right:

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Side by side comparison Tomatoes
Window Sill Plant to the left, Basement Plant to the right:

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Side by side comparison Basil
Basement Plant first, Window Sill Plant in the second picture:

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I'm convinced enough to start looking for more lights. I will however keep the experiment going, and probably start testing on Peppers and Chillis tomorrow or next weekend. 
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Sun Mar 05, 2017 3:16 pm

Sanna wrote:The difference between the Basement Plants and the Window Sill Plants are getting bigger and bigger each day. I'm now at the point that I'm starting to wonder how I ever got good plants on my Window Sills before (and I've always been happy with the quality of most of my plants..)

Some of the Basement Plants:

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Comparable Window Sill Plants. Started at the same dates but clearly smaller, leggier and with a brighter more yellow color tone:
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Side by side comparison Artichokes
Window Sill Plant to the left, Basement Plant to the right:

Image

Side by side comparison Cucumber
Window Sill Plant to the left, Basement Plant to the right:

Image

Side by side comparison Tomatoes
Window Sill Plant to the left, Basement Plant to the right:

Image

Side by side comparison Basil
Basement Plant first, Window Sill Plant in the second picture:

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I'm convinced enough to start looking for more lights. I will however keep the experiment going, and probably start testing on Peppers and Chillis tomorrow or next weekend. 
So basement wins out every time!
Many thanks for sharing this highly informative series of comparisons
Sanna wrote:The difference between the Basement Plants and the Window Sill Plants are getting bigger and bigger each day. I'm now at the point that I'm starting to wonder how I ever got good plants on my Window Sills before (and I've always been happy with the quality of most of my plants..)

Some of the Basement Plants:

Image

Comparable Window Sill Plants. Started at the same dates but clearly smaller, leggier and with a brighter more yellow color tone:
Image

Side by side comparison Artichokes
Window Sill Plant to the left, Basement Plant to the right:

Image

Side by side comparison Cucumber
Window Sill Plant to the left, Basement Plant to the right:

Image

Side by side comparison Tomatoes
Window Sill Plant to the left, Basement Plant to the right:

Image

Side by side comparison Basil
Basement Plant first, Window Sill Plant in the second picture:

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I'm convinced enough to start looking for more lights. I will however keep the experiment going, and probably start testing on Peppers and Chillis tomorrow or next weekend. 
So basement wins out every time!
Many thanks for sharing this highly informative series of comparisons.
Have you come across this impressive enterprise?
http://growing-underground.com/

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Re: Grow Light and Temperature Experiment - Basement vs. Room Temperature

Sun Mar 05, 2017 3:45 pm

I was in a flat last summer but moved to a small house primarily to get a garden. Are you implying that i need to move again to get a place with a basement!?


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Re: Grow Light and Temperature Experiment - Basement vs. Room Temperature

Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:30 pm

The Basement is a clear winner for Tomatoes and Basil. The Pepper and Chilli Plants also seem to be doing good. Most artichokes is fine, but one plant died unexpected this weekend. As it turns out, I spend quite a lot of time in the Basement looking after the plants. 

The room where I kept the plants used to be a really sad, rough and unpained room but this weekend we decided to refresh it a bit by fixing walls, painting walls and roof and putting in new shelves. The room is much nicer now and the plants seem to like it. I also got some more armatures from a friend that saw my experiment and had some left over armatures. Thank you so much!

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Re: Grow Light and Temperature Experiment - Basement vs. Room Temperature

Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:19 pm

So... one of the basement Artichoke Plants is suddenly not feeling to good... I have no idea what happened to this plant. Any ideas? The two others seem fine as far as I can tell.

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Decided to move all my Tomato Plants to the basement today. The ones that have been in the basement all the time are to the left, and the ones started at the same time but moved to the basement today are to the right. Huge difference!

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Re: Grow Light and Temperature Experiment - Basement vs. Room Temperature

Tue Mar 28, 2017 6:58 pm

Basement experiment update! I've decided to abort the experiment and move all of the plant types that have been doing good in the basement to the basement, simply because the plants in the basement station has been doing so much better.

Tomatoes 
(basement plant to the left, window sill plant to the right)

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Huge difference on the Tomatoes!
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Pepper plants
They have only been in the basement for a short time, but basement plants (to the left) is doing slightly better. 

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Malabar Spinach
Basement plant (to the left) is doing better than Window Sill plant (to the right):
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General pictures from the basement. It's getting crowded. :)

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Re: Grow Light and Temperature Experiment - Basement vs. Room Temperature

Sat Apr 01, 2017 1:10 am

Excellent work! I also decided to grow in my basement.. Hopefully it works as good as yours.. If it does I'll be needed more lights too.. Lol

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Re: Grow Light and Temperature Experiment - Basement vs. Room Temperature

Sun Apr 09, 2017 6:04 pm

Thank you! :-) Just noticed that my experiment cucumber is flowering in the basement. I will probably start experimenting with growing food all year around in the basement when the autumn comes.

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